Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

05/01/2007 05:15 PM House ECONOMIC DEV., TRADE, AND TOURISM


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05:42:12 PM Presentation by Nana Regional Corporation Inc.
06:49:50 PM SB97
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Economic Engines in Northwest Alaska
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
 HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INTERNATIONAL                                                               
                       TRADE AND TOURISM                                                                                      
                          May 1, 2007                                                                                           
                           5:42 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mark Neuman, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Carl Gatto                                                                                                       
Representative Kyle Johansen                                                                                                    
Representative Vic Kohring                                                                                                      
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Andrea Doll                                                                                                      
Representative Mike Doogan                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
PRESENTATION BY NANA REGIONAL CORPORATION INC.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
FOR SENATE BILL NO. 97(JUD)                                                                                                     
"An  Act relating  to identification  seals for  certain articles                                                               
created  or  crafted  in  the state  by  Alaska  Native  persons;                                                               
relating  to the  Alaska State  Council on  the Arts;  and making                                                               
certain identification seal violations unfair trade practices."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
BILL: SB  97                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALASKA NATIVE ART IDENTIFICATION SEALS                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) STEVENS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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02/26/07       (S)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/08/07       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/08/07       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/08/07       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/13/07       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/13/07       (S)       Moved SB 97 Out of Committee                                                                           
03/13/07       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/14/07       (S)       L&C RPT  4DP                                                                                           
03/14/07       (S)       DP: ELLIS, BUNDE, DAVIS, STEVENS                                                                       
03/21/07       (S)       FIN RPT   7DP                                                                                          
03/21/07       (S)       DP: HOFFMAN, STEDMAN, ELTON, THOMAS,                                                                   
                         DYSON, HUGGINS, OLSON                                                                                  
03/21/07       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/21/07       (S)       Moved SB  97 Out of Committee                                                                          
03/21/07       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/26/07       (S)       JUD REFERRAL ADDED                                                                                     
04/02/07       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
04/02/07       (S)       Moved CSSB  97(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/02/07       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
04/04/07       (S)       JUD RPT CS  1DP 4NR   SAME TITLE                                                                       
04/04/07       (S)       DP: FRENCH                                                                                             
04/04/07       (S)       NR: MCGUIRE, HUGGINS, WIELECHOWSKI,                                                                    
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04/11/07       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 97(JUD)                                                                                  
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04/13/07       (H)       EDT, HES, JUD                                                                                          
05/01/07       (H)       EDT AT 5:15 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WALTER SAMPSON, Vice President                                                                                                  
Land and Natural Resources                                                                                                      
NANA Regional Corporation, Inc.                                                                                                 
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided the presentation  on NANA Regional                                                               
Corporation  Inc.,  and  testified  during the  hearing  on  CSSB
97(JUD).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REGGIE JOULE, Member                                                                                             
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  during the presentation  by NANA                                                               
Regional Corporation, and answered  a question during the hearing                                                               
on CSSB 97(JUD).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TIM LAMKIN, Staff                                                                                                               
to Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                         
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented CSSB  97(JUD) on behalf of Senator                                                               
Stevens, sponsor.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BENJAMIN BROWN, Attorney at Law;                                                                                                
Vice Chair                                                                                                                      
Alaska State Council on the Arts (ASCA)                                                                                         
Douglas, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on CSSB 97.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
L. SAUNDERS MCNEILL, Director                                                                                                   
Community and Native Arts Program                                                                                               
Alaska State Council on the Arts (ASCA)                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on CSSB 97.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MARK NEUMAN called the  House Special Committee on Economic                                                             
Development, International Trade and  Tourism meeting to order at                                                               
5:42:00 PM.   Representatives Gatto,  Doll, Doogan,  Kohring, and                                                             
Neuman were present  at the call to order.   Representatives Lynn                                                               
and Johansen arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION BY NANA REGIONAL CORPORATION INC.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:42:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
a presentation by Walter Sampson of NANA.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:43:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WALTER SAMPSON, Vice President,  Land and Natural Resources, NANA                                                               
Regional Corporation  (NANA), presented  a brief history  of NANA                                                               
after  the   passage  of  the  Alaska   National  Interest  Lands                                                               
Conservation Act  (ANILCA) in  December, 1971.   He  informed the                                                               
committee that the  11 villages of the NANA  region directed that                                                               
the  management of  their  selected land  was to  be  based on  a                                                               
subsistence use  pattern; therefore,  no development  was planned                                                               
within this  region.  Mr.  Sampson explained that the  tribes are                                                               
strong governing  bodies in  the rural  villages of  this region.                                                               
Eventually, ten of  the villages decided to adopt  first class or                                                               
second  class city  government status  and,  thereby, sources  of                                                               
revenue  and services  were established.    The city  governments                                                               
provided  water, sewer,  electricity,  and other  services.   Mr.                                                               
Sampson said that when services began  to be cut back, due to the                                                               
reduction  of state  funds to  municipalities,  the villages  and                                                               
NANA shareholders began to search for other sources of revenue.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:51:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAMPSON  relayed  that  the  NANA  board  of  directors  was                                                               
instructed  to look  for a  business  opportunity.   At the  same                                                               
time,  NANA  was  finalizing  its land  selection  and  began  to                                                               
research land  north of Kotzebue.   The  rocks in this  area were                                                               
stained by  minerals which indicated  a potential  for successful                                                               
resource  development.   The  NANA  board  of directors  hired  a                                                               
geologist and reviewed documents from  the U.S. Department of the                                                               
Interior Geological Survey.  After  choosing a site, NANA applied                                                               
for  77,000 acres  of land  that  eventually became  the Red  Dog                                                               
Mine.  Mr. Sampson stressed  that NANA proceeded with development                                                               
plans  only after  receiving the  support of  all of  the village                                                               
residents.    During  a  period  of  fourteen  years  plans  were                                                               
developed and a road easement was acquired.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:54:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked about the stain on the land.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:54:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON  explained that  the land was  stained by  rocks, and                                                               
the mine was named after the  geologist's red dog.  In 1980, NANA                                                               
began a search for a  business partner with experience in mining.                                                               
Teck Cominco Ltd. (Teck Cominco),  was chosen for the partnership                                                               
due to  its prior  arctic experience.   He  pointed out  that the                                                               
villagers  began a  transformation from  a rural  and subsistence                                                               
lifestyle to  one that  also incorporates  the operations  of the                                                               
mining industry.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:59:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN  asked Mr. Sampson  to speak of the  balance between                                                               
subsistence and development.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:59:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAMPSON  relayed  that  the   agreement  with  Teck  Cominco                                                               
included  provisions to  protect the  land around  the mine,  the                                                               
road system, and  the port facility.  In  addition, a subsistence                                                               
committee  comprised  of  elders  from Kivalina  and  Noatak  was                                                               
created.  The subsistence committee  meets quarterly and notifies                                                               
NANA  of any  potential environmental  problems.   NANA and  Teck                                                               
Cominco  also work  closely with  federal and  state agencies  to                                                               
monitor wildlife and water quality in the region.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
6:05:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON  described the mine's  economic impact to  the region                                                               
by noting  that NANA and  Teck Cominco have formed  an employment                                                               
committee  that seeks  to  bring  shareholders into  supervisory,                                                               
technical, professional, and managerial  positions at the Red Dog                                                               
Mine.     Through   the  process   of   education  and   training                                                               
opportunities, students  from all of  the villages tour  the mine                                                               
and job-shadow employees.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:06:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO asked  whether students  from the  Kivalina                                                               
school district participate in the training opportunities.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:06:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON  said yes.   He then continued  to say that  the job-                                                               
shadow, career  awareness, pre-apprentice  mill wrights,  and on-                                                               
the-job  training programs  are  available  for interested  youth                                                               
from all of the villages.   In addition, the Red Dog Mine employs                                                               
six  trainers  for students,  and  NANA  provides post  secondary                                                               
scholarships  in the  amount of  $250 million  per year.   Higher                                                               
degrees in engineering are especially encouraged.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
6:10:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON  called the committee's  attention to  NANA's efforts                                                               
to maximize shareholder  employment at the mine.   The percentage                                                               
of shareholder employment has ranged  from 5l percent in 1996, to                                                               
58 percent in 2005,  and one of the goals for  the next ten years                                                               
is to  increase that percentage.   He said that the  Red Dog Mine                                                               
is a drug  and alcohol free operation.  Mr.  Sampson informed the                                                               
committee that the  total work force at the mine  is 464 workers,                                                               
and total annual wages paid are  $42 million.  He said that wages                                                               
paid  by  the mine  from  1982  and  through 2006,  totaled  $475                                                               
million.   Almost  70 percent  of  the mine's  employees live  in                                                               
Anchorage  due to  the lower  cost of  living and  a shortage  of                                                               
housing and other employment opportunities in the villages.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:17:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  NEUMAN asked  whether villagers  are  concerned about  the                                                               
number of young adults who are moving to bigger cities.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:17:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAMPSON  opined  that  the majority  will  return  to  their                                                               
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:18:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN  asked whether there were  Native employees                                                               
at  the mine,  who are  not listed  as shareholders  because they                                                               
were born after December, 1971.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:19:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAMPSON   explained  that   NANA  is   one  of   two  Native                                                               
corporations that have enrolled  children born after December 18,                                                               
1971; however, stock held by the afterborn is not transferable.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:20:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON pointed  out that NANA received  Teck Cominco royalty                                                               
payments  from  1982 through  2005,  that  totaled $126  million.                                                               
Seventy  percent of  the  royalty payment  is  shared with  other                                                               
regional  corporations  as mandated  by  ANILCA.   The  Northwest                                                               
Arctic Borough  was created in  1986 from the  region surrounding                                                               
the mine  in order  to support  education and  improve employment                                                               
opportunities  for  the  residents.    As  a  borough,  Northwest                                                               
Borough is empowered to collect from  the Red Dog Mine payment in                                                               
lieu of taxes  (PILT).  Teck Cominco has paid  PILT in the amount                                                               
of  $56 million  from  1990  though 2005,  and  residents of  the                                                               
borough are  not obligated to  pay taxes.  The  present Northwest                                                               
Arctic Borough  budget is  $6 million and  is sufficient  to bond                                                               
$100 million for the construction of seven new schools.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:25:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON  stated that  the cost  of living  and transportation                                                               
costs have risen  for the Northwest Artic  Borough residents, and                                                               
residents hope for state assistance  in the future.  Presently 85                                                               
percent  of  the  borough's budget  is  dedicated  to  education.                                                               
During construction  of the  mine, financing  was needed  for the                                                               
port  facility.   The Alaska  Industrial  Development and  Export                                                               
Authority (AIDEA)  invested $265  million in construction  of the                                                               
port  site.   Teck Cominco  has  repaid $288  million toward  the                                                               
balance,  interest,  and  excess  tonnage charges  for  the  road                                                               
system.   Mr. Sampson said  that the Northwest Arctic  Borough is                                                               
investigating,  with AIDEA,  the  possibility  of purchasing  the                                                               
port  site as  a  source of  additional revenue.    He said  that                                                               
purchase of the port site  will provide income and employment for                                                               
the  region,   and  that  the   Northwest  Artic   Borough  would                                                               
appreciate the committee member's support of this project.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:32:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN observed  that AIDEA should be invited  to present a                                                               
report to the committee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:32:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON  continued to  note that  the future  of the  port is                                                               
contingent on AIDEA, and the  Department of Transportation (DOT),                                                               
completing  the  environmental impact  study  of  the deep  water                                                               
port.   If  approved, the  port will  be dredged  three miles  to                                                               
allow the  ships to load at  the conveyor and eliminate  the need                                                               
for barges.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:35:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN asked whether storage is provided at the port site.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:35:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON  answered that,  north of the  port, there  are tanks                                                               
for fuel storage.  There is  also a storage facility for the that                                                               
has  the capacity  to hold  nine months  of concentrate  from the                                                               
mine.   Also,  storage  is  provided for  the  mine supplies  and                                                               
equipment.   The Red Dog  Mine burns  33,000 gallons of  fuel per                                                               
day for operations and mine  owners are considering a partnership                                                               
with NANA to explore for natural gas.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:37:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON  turned the committee's  attention to the  subject of                                                               
the  Sulanich Arts  Center.   He said  that the  Northwest Arctic                                                               
Borough is  interested in supporting  Native arts and  crafts and                                                               
its  offices purchase  art work  or  display artwork  to sell  on                                                               
consignment.    The  borough  and   Chukchi  College  received  a                                                               
$395,000  grant  to  build  an  arts center  in  Kotzebue.    The                                                               
renovated  facility for  artists is  scheduled to  open in  June,                                                               
2007, with additional funding from the Rasmussen Foundation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:41:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  NEUMAN   recalled  that  the   land  is  a   resource  for                                                               
subsistence and a source of income.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:42:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAMPSON stated  that the  future  of the  region depends  on                                                               
development of  the resources north of  the Red Dog Mine,  and of                                                               
the  coal deposits  in the  Artic slope.   In  the Ambler  mining                                                               
district, transportation issues are  vital; particularly the need                                                               
for a railroad, or road, from the west to the port facility.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:43:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REGGIE  JOULE,  Alaska State  Legislature,  added                                                               
that the  deep water port project  must keep moving forward.   He                                                               
noted  that  there   is  an  important  need   to  eliminate  the                                                               
lightering  of  mine  products  by barges,  and  to  bring  other                                                               
customers  in to  use  the port.   Development  in  the north  is                                                               
challenging,  he  said,  but  can  protect  the  environment  and                                                               
continue the subsistence livelihood for residents.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:46:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN  asked for advice  for Northern Dynasty  Mines Inc.,                                                               
regarding the development of the Pebble Mine.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:46:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON  replied that  development must  include consultation                                                               
with  affected  residents  and interested  environmental  groups.                                                               
Communities must  be asked  to partner  with the  mine developers                                                               
for mutual benefits.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:48:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL asked about  the estimated production life of                                                               
the mine and the location of its markets.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:48:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON answered  that the mine will be in  production for 35                                                               
to  40 years.    Its markets  include, but  are  not limited  to,                                                               
China, Japan, and  Korea.  Transportation of over  a million tons                                                               
of ore is provided by a variety of shippers.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB  97-ALASKA NATIVE ART IDENTIFICATION SEALS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:49:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN  announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
CS   FOR  SENATE   BILL  NO.   97(JUD),  "An   Act  relating   to                                                               
identification seals  for certain articles created  or crafted in                                                               
the state by Alaska Native  persons; relating to the Alaska State                                                               
Council  on  the Arts;  and  making  certain identification  seal                                                               
violations unfair trade practices."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:50:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  LAMKIN,   staff  to  Senator  Gary   Stevens,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, presented the sponsor statement  for SB 97 on behalf                                                               
of Senator Stevens, sponsor, and  the Alaska State Council on the                                                               
Arts (ASCA).   Mr. Lamkin informed the committee  that the Silver                                                               
Hand seals  are a marketing tool  that is used to  represent that                                                               
an article  of art has  been authentically  made in Alaska  by an                                                               
Alaska Native.   Originally begun in the 1930s,  at the beginning                                                               
of the  worldwide interest  in Native art,  the emblem  has often                                                               
become a  victim of fraud.   He said that  SB 97 is a  measure to                                                               
modernize the  statute, strengthen  the program, and  protect the                                                               
artists.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:53:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  NEUMAN  asked whether  SB  97  will change  the  bloodline                                                               
requirements to quality for a permit to use Silver Hand seals.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:54:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN responded  that SB 97 will strike  references to blood                                                               
quantum and bring the qualifications  for permit holders equal to                                                               
those at the federal level.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BENJAMIN BROWN,  attorney at  law, and vice  chair of  the Alaska                                                               
State Council of  the Arts, informed the committee  that the bill                                                               
was the  result of work by  an ASCA task force  that consisted of                                                               
Alaska Native  artists.  He  assured the committee that  the bill                                                               
was  unanimously  supported  by  the council.    The  task  force                                                               
studied the  existing statute and made  housekeeping changes that                                                               
are not controversial.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:56:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN noted that on page 4,  line 13, there is a new state                                                               
residency requirement.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:56:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BROWN  indicated that  an  artist  can retain  residency  by                                                               
stating his/her intent to return to the state permanently.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:57:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked for the  source of the steel  used to                                                               
craft an ulu.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:57:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BROWN  responded that  SB  97  allows  for use  of  imported                                                               
materials.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:58:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN  added that this bill  will also put more  emphasis on                                                               
the artist and his/her creation, rather than the materials used.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:58:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WALTER SAMPSON, Vice President,  Land and Natural Resources, NANA                                                               
Regional  Corporation, Inc.,  opined that  this bill  will narrow                                                               
the  statewide issue  regarding Native  status down  to a  tribal                                                               
issue.   Blood quantum, he  advised, is  a divisive issue,  as is                                                               
the residency requirement.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
7:00:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN  clarified that  an out of  state Native  artist would                                                               
not be prevented  from the sale of his/her art,  but he/she would                                                               
not qualify to use the Silver Hand seal.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
7:01:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN stated  that the committee will probably  hold SB 97                                                               
due to the negative comments he has received.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:02:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
L.  SAUNDERS   MCNEILL,  Director,  Community  and   Native  Arts                                                               
Program, Alaska  State Council on  the Arts (ASCA),  informed the                                                               
committee that  the use  of the  Silver Hand  seal is  limited to                                                               
state residents due  to the lack of ASCA  jurisdiction outside of                                                               
state  boundaries.   She noted  that ASCA  maintains partnerships                                                               
for  enforcement of  the Silver  Hand program  with the  attorney                                                               
general's office,  the Federal Trade  Commission, and  the Indian                                                               
Arts and Crafts Board; however,  enforcement must be within state                                                               
boundaries.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
7:03:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN asked whether there  are circumstances under which a                                                               
non-resident artist could use the seal.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
7:03:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCNEILL said  that the intent of the program  has always been                                                               
to  designate  Native   art  that  is  produced   in  the  state.                                                               
Exceptions  are  made  for  artists  stationed  in  the  military                                                               
outside of the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
7:04:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  asked whether  the Silver Hand  seal differs                                                               
from the "Made in Alaska" bear symbol.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
7:04:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LAMKIN answered  that the  Made in  Alaska tag  is used  for                                                               
manufactured,  mass-produced  goods, although  artists  sometimes                                                               
use both  symbols.  He explained  that the Made in  Alaska symbol                                                               
is owned  by the  Department of  Commerce, Community,  & Economic                                                               
Development (DCCED).                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
7:05:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN  confirmed that there is  no enforcement to                                                               
prevent misuse of the Silver Hand seal outside of Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
7:06:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCNEILL  affirmed that nationwide, regulation  of Native arts                                                               
is a  problem.  She noted  that the ASCA is  tasked to administer                                                               
the  Silver Hand  program  and not  to  determine who  qualifies.                                                               
Tribes  designate  individuals as  members,  and  the ASCA  would                                                               
simply   require  a   permit  holder   to   prove  the   artist's                                                               
registration in a tribe.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
7:08:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL remarked:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     I just  need to have  something clarified. ...  On page                                                                    
     5,  [line 3],  where you  said, original,  meaning new,                                                                    
     unique, not  a reproduction,  or without  the use  of a                                                                    
     mechanized  duplication   instruments.  ...   Were  you                                                                    
     mentioning,  Mr. Brown,  that,  for  example, we  could                                                                    
     import  the steel  that's already  fashioned, and  then                                                                    
     the wood would  be already there, and you  just have to                                                                    
     put it together.  Is that the idea?                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
7:09:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROWN said no.  He relayed  that he was trying to explain the                                                               
diversity of  media and materials  that are used in  the creation                                                               
of  art.    The  program  does   not  try  to  micro  manage  the                                                               
determination of  handicraft versus  art, and  the bill  seeks to                                                               
streamline the statute  that refers to artwork.   Mr. Brown added                                                               
that  the changes  in the  bill  were to  identify Alaska  Native                                                               
artists and their work that is being sold in Alaska.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
7:10:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  NEUMAN  opined that  there  is  some confusion  about  the                                                               
Silver Hand seal program.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
7:10:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN  observed that  an original  painting would                                                               
qualify for  a Silver Hand  seal, but the resulting  prints would                                                               
not.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
7:11:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCNEILL explained that there  are different types of printing                                                               
processes and the intent of  the legislation is to issues permits                                                               
to print artists  that maintain a direct  relationship with their                                                               
artwork.   When an artist  is the  printmaker, the art  work will                                                               
qualify for a Silver Hand  seal.  However, multiple reproductions                                                               
of  original art  may  not.   She  expressed  her  hope that  the                                                               
changes in statute  will make the program more  inclusive for all                                                               
Alaska Native artists.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
7:12:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO   stated  that  "Alaska  Grown"   has  been                                                               
patented to protect its use.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
7:13:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCNEILL responded that the Silver Hand seal is a registered                                                                 
trademark in Alaska, and ASCA is in the process of obtaining a                                                                  
federal trademark for the seal.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
7:14:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NEUMAN stated the committee's intent to garner, from                                                                      
artisans, additional testimony on SB 97.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Economic Development, International Trade                                                                  
and Tourism meeting was adjourned at 7:15 p.m.                                                                                  

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